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4 minutes ago, TuckerIntensity said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and Winnipeg, I'd shoot Winnipeg twice. 

Out of the 32 NHL teams, there might be 5 i actually like.

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1 minute ago, PIPERSMAN63 said:

 Yes but i wont  even watch the other teams playoffs or not.

fair enough.  i wont watch ov's playoffs because first of all, they typically lose to opponents they should arguably beat, and more importantly, OV shortens his career by a year every playoffs with how reckless he becomes.  i did watch most of washington's playoff games this year, and my god. the anxiety that ov's game gives me was too much, he honestly looked like wendell clark out there half the time and i was not about it.  

but I typically stop watching the playoffs after the leafs get eliminated too, this year was a bit of an exception & i just wanted to always watch more and more hockey.  I most enjoyed the finals for obvious reasons, sweet sweet mtl destruction and all.  

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2 minutes ago, Dog Taker said:

fair enough.  i wont watch ov's playoffs because first of all, they typically lose to opponents they should arguably beat, and more importantly, OV shortens his career by a year every playoffs with how reckless he becomes.  i did watch most of washington's playoff games this year, and my god. the anxiety that ov's game gives me was too much, he honestly looked like wendell clark out there half the time and i was not about it.  

but I typically stop watching the playoffs after the leafs get eliminated too, this year was a bit of an exception & i just wanted to always watch more and more hockey.  I most enjoyed the finals for obvious reasons, sweet sweet mtl destruction and all.  

I actually find the older i get the less interest i have. I didn't watch 5 minutes of the finals.

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On 8/5/2021 at 8:56 AM, Duffman said:

Sandman you're 100% correct here, and it starts really young. Just from personal experience, I didn't really get "good" (I use that word very loosely) at hockey until I was 16 and tagged along to a USHL tryout with a buddy. I basically went because they were short on goalies for the weekend, and my buddy (a forward) was the one being looked at. I played way better than I really should have and started taking hockey more seriously after that. But up until I was 15/16 my summers were mostly dedicated to baseball and farming, I'd do the odd hockey camp for a week or two but that was it. 

Now the guys I'd see at these team training camps/tryouts lived hockey 24/7, at least the good ones did. Rarely played other sports, were on the ice twice a day and working out every day all summer. I remember being at an NAHL skate in St. Louis with a bunch of guys who fit that description, they grew up playing with the Tkachuk's in the Jr. Blues AAA system. As far as I know the only one from that group that made it anywhere was Woll, and yet all of them trained and lived like they were going to the NHL. 

That's how dedicated guys were who still didn't even make it. Kids are groomed starting sometimes even younger than 10, its crazy and probably not healthy. Theres a reason we're seeing so many guys coming from NHL bloodlines being drafted now too. These guys have the name recognition, and have been training for it since they were old enough to walk. 

You'll still sometimes get guys like Kessel who are just naturally gifted physical freaks, or Matthews who started down that path at a later age than most future NHLers. But when you look at the draft, most of those guys coming out of the UNTDP and CHL have been training for it basically their whole lives. 

My son has two goals: throw 90+ In a HS game and play college baseball. we support him every way we can because he has the right attitude. 
 

He has two  training programs and two specialized coaches  in addition to his regular HS and summer teams. He’s almost 16 and the workouts they do are absolutely incredible - speed training, stamina training, throwing, yoga with very few days of just weights and he looks like an Olympic athlete. 

Because he’s young and needs to gain weight, the dietician told us that he can eat whatever he wants, whenever he wants,  until he hits a certain weight ( ~200lbs for his height and body structure) which is 35 lbs away before he has to worry .

 

 

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On 8/5/2021 at 5:54 PM, §andman said:

Imagine being one of those guys who end up spending their entire lives being told to do nothing but hockey, hockey, hockey and the furthest you get is the ECHL? Then you see guys who probably party a couple times of week, eat like shit, go off and play basketball, and jump rank up to the NHL before you? How demoralizing that must be? And yet it probably happens with more than half of these guys. 

I never thought about that, but those guys that dedicated their lives and just never made it... you basically gotta restart your life at 30, or whenever you quit, and make a living that is outside of what you dreamed for the past 20-30 years.

To be fair the days of guys like Kessel and Byfuglien coming in lacking that much work ethic are pretty much over. Team's demand a lot more out of players right from day 1. Look at how useless someone like Laine is, all the god given talent in the world but a ten cent work ethic.

These days the guys who work their nuts off only to top out at semi-pro aren't being passed up on for a bunch of lazy fucks. The guys who make it (for the most part) all have that same work ethic but with a little extra talent sprinkled on top.

Yea some of those guys really struggle when the ride finally comes to a stop. Others land on their feet and do fine, mostly on the back of being charismatic af. When I was done I worked at a luxury car dealership for a bit, one of the sales managers was a former AHLer. Not a career path I'd want but I'd say he's doing ok for himself. 

But I've also got a buddy from high school, he did the 3 years of Jr. A, 4 years of D3 college, and now he's playing D2 or some shit in Sweden. On one hand I've gotta respect him for being in his mid 20's and still living out the dream, I'd love to wake up every morning knowing hockey is the only thing to worry about. On the other hand whenever that ride stops it's going to be a very unpleasant welcome back to reality for the guy. 

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12 hours ago, PIPERSMAN63 said:

Out of the 32 NHL teams, there might be 5 i actually like.

Unfortunately I'll probably always like the Leafs, ditto for the Kings and Stars. As for the rest it just goes by who's fun to watch and certain players. I was starting to not mind Vegas before they fucked over Fleury, but now they can fuck off. I'm all in on Florida now, that team is super fun and I think they're going to do some damage next year.

Arizona is creeping up on me just because of Chychrun. Nobody realizes how good he is because that team is so irrelevant. 

I don't mind the Caps either, mostly cause of Wilson

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